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  Child Abuse Telememo

  by Bangalore in

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  btt very powerful stuff
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  About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

  by life is to short in

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  soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

  soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

  anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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  Yes LV101 they defiantly go door to door. I have begged the elders not to send them door to door, then I have talked to the CO's the DO and begged them not to send them door to door. Then I wrote to Bethel, first the writing department then, I was turned over to the service department. In fact one of the guys I was writing to was the same one who wrote to the elders involved with Candace Conti. They will not give you their names when you write or call Bethel they will only give you letters. The guy I was speaking to was SST the same as Candace Conti.

  Mind blown is totally right "if the WT is assisting/encouraging them to go door to door as well as being on the same street as children, they are guilty of breaking the law."

  144001 has his own agenda trying to scare everyone by telling us we could all be fined and maybe even thrown in jail if we side with Anonymous.
  But like I posted it is also against the law to go door to door with child molesters and I begged a CO not to send me with child molesters and the CO told me to my face I needed to get a handle on my feelings toward child molesters. That the one pedophile I was talking about even though he was on Meghan's list he still had a right to go out in field service and if he showed up to meet for service and being that my husband was an elder he would go out in service in MY CAR. I had no say in the matter.

  So as 144001 is saying we could be arrested or fined by supporting Anonymous but we can also be arrested or fined by not doing anything as we can see what happened with Penn State and Joe Paterno.

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  About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

  by life is to short in

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  2. child-abuse

  soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

  soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

  anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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  How can there be a question such as number 9 on their the WT's Child Abuse Telememo that says how many elders felt that the victim was somewhat at fault or a willingly participated in the acts?

  How can there ever be a Telemomo in the first place?

  I know the hall I was attending and only reason I stopped attending was because of the child molesters. It was what woke me up to this not being the "truth" in any way the way the child molesters were being handled.

  OK so Anonymous and their activities are as you say 14401 are criminal. But so is allowing child molesters, pedophiles to be around and hold and take care of kids in front of the hole congregation and not do a dam thing about it. I know in the hall I went two there were three very strong elders, one was the CoBE, his son-in-law and a tax attorney elder. These three elders wanted the pedophiles to be able to hold kids in the hall. Some of the other elders felt it was wrong but did not know how to buck the three strong elders. So they went with the flow.

  How is that any different then Joe Paterno? So what you are saying is stay away from Anonymous but what do? Do you do sit by and let kids get raped? It is kind of like you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

  I talked to an attorney and he told me that knowing what I do and that is that the WT does send child molesters men who have raped children door to door and since I know that for a fact that if a child molester was to go back to a door and molest a kid after field service being I was the one to take him to that door I could like Joe Paterno be libel. Look how much Penn Sate lost.

  It is truly scary, it reminds me of the Scripture that JW's love to spout off in Rev 18: 4, 5 ("And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.")

  I am not saying that I support Anonymous to do anything criminal or that I want to or as you said "criminal liability based on a conspiracy allegation."

  But I do not want to support pedophiles going door to door also. And being that many of the child molesters are not reported as the Child Abuse Telememo says they may not be reported if it is non reporting state. So you will not know even checking the Meghan's list if the JW you are working with door to door it a child molester. Yet you are libel because you know that the person could be.

  I guess everyone just needs to get of of HER the WT if we do not want to share in her sins.

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  Child Abuse Telememo

  by Bangalore in

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  I just do not get how they can get by with this. How can they have a question like number 9 and no one do anything about it. It would be like asking if the children Jerry Sandusky molested were at fault.

  This is beyond sick. I just do not get why the news is not going after them, much less the legal world. How anyone can stay in the religion after knowing this is mind boggling.

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  WT Society Feels they are Above the Laws of the Land - Even in their own....

  by flipper in

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  ...... words.

  knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.

  in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.

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  This reminds me of when we were first married and this MS in the hall flipped out threatening to kill people. He threatened to shoot up where he worked and they fired him, this was back in the late 80's, now I am sure he would have been arrested by his employer.

  Then this guy decided to kill my husband because he was an elder, in fact my husband was the only elder in the hall at the time. So this guy calls us up one night about 10:00 in the evening and says he has his gun loaded and he was coming over. I was so freaked out but my husband told me Jehovah would protect us. My husband did call an elder from the next congregation over that night who kept the guy on the phone until about one in the morning and the guys wife hid the bullets in the gun. From what his wife said after he got off the phone with the elder he picked up the gun to come over to our home and then he realized that she had the bullets and they got into a fight but it stopped him for the time being.

  So the next morning my husband called Bethel to ask what we should do. The first Brother on the phone told us to go right away to the police. We were walking out the door when the phone rang again with another brother from Bethel telling us to STOP!!!!!! Bethel did not want the POLICE INVOLVED in anyway. We were to handle this on our own without any help.

  My husband would not go the police after that no matter how much I begged him to. He had to follow Jehovah's command first he said and Jehovah was using Bethel. So my husband wanted me to craw on my hands and knees in our home for months in case the guy was hanging out by our home. We lived out of town about five miles, This guy made my life a living HELL for years, coming into where I worked and pointing his finger at me telling me I was a good as dead, he would follow me in his car when I was driving alone, and when ever my husband had an elders meeting, about ten minutes after my husband would leave the house our phone would ring none stop with the guy calling over and over telling me he had followed my husband and had killed him.

  Funny thing is the guy started to threaten the next hall over, threatening to kill the whole hall. This hall got a restraining order on him. I now wonder if the elders in that hall called Bethel first or if they called the police first. I truly think they called the police first, I am sure now, which is just common sense. After the police were involved what was Bethel going to do tell them to take it back?

  Yeh thanks Bethel for your love and support in my life.

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  Child Abuse Telememo

  by Bangalore in

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  Thanks

  Has this ever been posted before? It is just amazing that the protection of the religion is put before the welfare of the child. It just makes me sick.

  I wish they would get hit like Penn State.

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  Candace Conti v. Watchtower Society - Closing Argument by WTBTS Attorney

  by jwleaks in

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  jane doe v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. .

  jury trial - june 14, 2012 - day 10. .

  mr. schnack: ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the judge has instructed you that it is your choice to award or not to award punitive damages.

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  Menlo Park KH - Elder Tells All - and more

  by Juan Viejo2 in

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  i've published part one of a three part series about the menlo park kh scandal.

  http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-elder-tells-all-1.

  this has been a tough one for me.. the original federal case was dismissed in january.

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  Obey Elders and Be Happy Children!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  obey elders and be happy children!.

  today i added a new article to my blog addressing watchtower theology regarding its appointment of elders among jehovahs witnesses.

  watchtower makes no bones about it.

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  Ver well done short and to the point.

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  About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

  by life is to short in

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  2. child-abuse

  soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

  soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

  anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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  btt